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 My Critique of Modern "Georgism"Harry Pollard
 [A series of exchanges on issues relating to political economy,
          extending over a period of months during 2014 / Part 2 of 2]
 
 
 HARRY POLLARDThe following exchange took place between Mason Gaffney and myself
          with regard to Skepticism 4.
 
 I said: I remember dividing us between Georgists and land-value
          taxers way back in the 1950's in Canada, but at that time I didn't
          realize its eventual significance (as I see it).
 
 
 MASON GAFFNEYNeither did I, nor do I now. You were going to show that modern
          Georgists (like me, I guess) were pushing to tax wages in the guise of
          a lvt, but I've seen no more about that. So what's this all about now?
 
 
 HP: I didn't say or imply there was any "pushing to
            tax wages in the guise of a LVT". What I said was that present
            efforts to tax land values are likely to tax only some of the
            contract rent. Rack-rent would remain, along with its consequences,
            but some of it would be collected by the tax man. 
 I pointed out that urban economic rent was the result of the
            presence and access of the surrounding community. That it was a
            value that attaches to a land location and was a measure of the
            advantage given to the location by the community. If labor pays this
            value to a landholder (or to the community) he loses nothing from
            his wages. He pays (say) $100 a week for the right to work there: he
            gets $100 worth of advantage from the location.
 
 This assumes that advantage is measured in a free market. The free
            market is highly efficient in relating supply and demand. As the
            community changes in various ways, perhaps increasing in size and
            well-being, or moving to different parts of the city, so will the
            free market accurately note the changes. I would think that
            land-value assessors would have all city locations in their
            computers and would continually bring them up to date.
 
 The present land location market is not free. For a free market to
            operate at its optimum efficiency two conditions are necessary.
            There must be no restriction on production, and no restriction on
            movement to market.
 
 We cannot increase the number of locations in a city and we cannot
            move more locations in from outside. The free market does not
            control location values.
 
 We must have a land location to live. We need a location to work
            on, to live on, just to have somewhere to stand. Demand is a given.
 
 Supply is another matter. I went into the psychology of a
            landholder in an earlier "Skepticism". Suffice it to say
            that he is likely to be reluctant to supply. When supply is short,
            the price mechanism raises prices. So long as the shortfall
            continues prices will move up. This extra amount that labor pays has
            to come from somewhere and it comes from his wages.
 
 This is not economic rent that is being paid, but contract rent
            (something paid by one to another). (Fred calls it contractual.)
            Contract rent will increase until it becomes rack-rent, which is
            defined by me as the highest amount that can be paid while
            maintaining production. Any higher demand will cause production to
            stop.
 
 Henry George, less of a panty-waist then me, said grimly, any
            further exaction would lead to "a cessation of life".
 
 This "syphoning" of wages into rack-rent permeates the
            whole economy and is the reason why "the poor will always be
            with us". Economists, politicians, and fair-minded folk promote
            welfare of various kinds to help the poor. Though the incomes of
            poor may be raised, inevitably rack-rents remove the benefit. This
            is why last year's welfare doesn't appear to work this year.
 
 When modern land-value taxers press their case they are essentially
            asking for some collection of rent. Yet all their land-value tax
            will do is to skim off some of the rack-rent. As rack-rent is taken
            from wages, a land-value tax that bites into rack-rent is taxing
            wages at secondhand.
 
 After the land-value tax, the poor will still be with us, but then
            haven't they always been?
 
 The land-value tax can work if it's high enough. I won't go into
            the mechanics of this is its little more complicated than we often
            assume. Enough must be collected to induce the general unloading of
            vacant and underused land. The result should be that rack-rent
            induced land prices will topple and land location prices will return
            to control of a free market. (To achieve the goal of justice all the
            economic rent must be collected.)
 
 Once rack rent is gone Labor will be back to paying economic rent
            and the present heavy weight on production will end. We have become
            so used to this burden that we no longer think about it. For
            example, why does it take us 30 years of debt to buy a house? I've
            seen factory made start-up housing priced at not much more than the
            good car. Yet we are conditioned into believing that to buy a house
            takes most of our working life.
 
 One might argue that if we can get a little LVT that will lead to
            greater things. The problem with doing things gradually is that each
            step becomes progressively harder as opposition grows. A victory for
            a small collection of rack-rent may be as far as you get and,
            remember, that is simply taxing wages!
 
 HARRY POLLARDContinuing the discussion of the vital difference between economic
          rent and rack-rent.
 
 
 DAVID GIESENAm I missing something? My understanding of George's intent--it's
          certainly mine-- is to tax away the potential rent of a location, both
          rent actual and speculative. So, along with Mason I ask, "So
          what's this all about?" Are there folks out there asking for any
          less?
 
 
 HP: We just want the "rent actual". I don't
            know of any land-value taxers who are advocating the full collection
            of economic rent - a necessary condition for a Georgist economy.
            While they do push the advantages of the land-value tax such as that
            is not a weight on production as are other taxes, they mostly seem
            to echo Milton Friedman's comment that it is "the least bad tax".
            Much of their attention seemed directed to the amount that could be
            collected, with totals that seem to verge on the fantastic. This
            because they are based on rack-rents that would disappear with a
            full collection of economic rent. 
 The greatest successes in the US are in Pennsylvania with some 22
            cities have some degree of land-value taxation. Perhaps the best
            prospect is in Clairton where their land-value tax finances
            education as well as their Council activities. If we had proper
            organization, Henry George classes should have been set up in
            Clairton to start producing local Georgists who understand the
            importance of full collection.
 
 DAN SULLIVANYou are wrong. Incremental shifts to LVT have led to lower rents in
          the municipalities of Australia and Pennsylvania. There are no rack
          rents like California rack rents and those are the direct result of
          curtailing real estate taxes.
 
 In 1911, Pittsburgh had the second-highest rents in the nation (after
          New York City). As it introduced gradual increases in land value tax
          from 1913-1925, we had increased construction with flat real estate
          prices while the rest of the country was seeing increased real estate
          prices with flat construction. By 1960, we were the most affordable of
          the 100 largest cities. Pittsburgh lost its LVT in 2000, and rents are
          rapidly increasing.
 
 
 HP: I think you were pretty much alone, Dan, in keeping
            Pittsburgh sensible. A fine example of what can be done by a
            dedicated individual. It was sheer stupidity mixed with quite a bit
            of chicanery that threw out the land-value tax and replaced it with
            other taxes and, among other things, expensive subsidies to
            construction. Without doubt, a land-value tax produces better
            results than any of its competitors. It really is the least bad tax.
            Yet, to be Georgist, the collection of rent must be enough to make
            speculative land a burden - enough of a burden to cause land to be
            unloaded onto the market. Then, prices will drop until they reflect
            economic rent. 
 I taught classes in Pittsburgh in the early 60s and I recall large
            occupied buildings in the downtown area. That would never happen
            with a full collection of economic rent.
 
 An argument can be made that we have to make a start. That we have
            to collect some rent so later we can collect much more. I think this
            is unlikely to happen - except perhaps in Clairton. (Maybe Josh can
            give us more information on what is happening there.)
 
 In any event, present attempts to tax land values appear mostly to
            take some of the rack-rent. An advantage is that it does teach local
            politicians that it can be done.
 
 FRED FOLDVARYThanks, Harry, I agree.
 
 However, in my analysis, as the rate of LVT rises, rack rent will
          fall, until when LVT is 100% of economic rent, and then rack rent
          disappears. The greater the collection of rent, the greater the
          carrying cost of underused land.
 
 Mason made the good point that an explicit cost in money has a
          greater punch than the implicit cost of not getting maximum revenue
          from rentals.
 
 
 HP: Quite right, Fred! And as is usual, Mason is right.
            Land-value taxes will bite into rack rent (as would other taxes and
            other privileges). Important is that the rent collection must be
            high enough to cause unloading of speculative land. The unloading
            will begin long before we reach 100%. Probably the first to respond
            to serious economic rent collection would be large land investment
            firms that could see the writing on the wall. They will begin to
            sell and invest elsewhere. Land prices will fall. This will induce
            small speculators (or as they are called nowadays property
            investors) somewhat reluctantly to unload. As land prices fall
            further (as a result of the unloading) they will begin more closely
            to reflect economic rent rather than rack-rent.  
 BRET BARKERIn other words, Georgism is dead without a radical dose of
          collection. (We cannot get to the meat unless we cut lots of fat
          away.) LVT will not take away the general tradition of getting to
          'profit' from land ownership. It must make landholders as landholders
          queasy.
 
 
 ALANNA HARTZOKBy any other name, still the same - the land problem must be solved.
 
 
 HP: Amen! 
 HARRY POLLARDMy last E-Mail had a reply to Dan Sullivan referring to large
          occupied buildings in Pittsburgh.
 
 That should have been "unoccupied".
 
 Sorry about that!
 
 I've been asked, are Georgists Left or Right?
 
 I had a radio program some years ago titled "From the Radical
          Center". I would say we are neither Left nor Right but in the
          center, but we are also radical - in the sense of applying ourselves
          to the root of problems.
 
 I oppose the planned economy because it is inefficient and ultimately
          a failure. Note the condition of semi-planned economies around the
          world. On the other hand, I would say the "free market" does
          what the left says it will - send wages to ever lower levels with the
          bottom tier at subsistence.
 
 The free market is by far the best way to run an economy - but the
          land problem must first be solved. With an unsolved land problem, the
          free market fails. This is why "free marketers", when they
          take power, inevitably lose it again as their economy fails to help
          labor.
 
 I should stress that though the privilege of taking rack-rent is the
          fundamental privilege, both Left and Right governments harbor many
          more privileges.
 
 (Defined as a 'private law' designed to help some at a cost to
          others.) It is important to convince reformers of all stripes that the
          spoils of privilege should not be taxed as is offered everywhere as
          the way to deal with inequality.
 
 Rather, privileges should be abolished - all of them. Get rid of them
          all,
 
 As I said, Georgists are radicals and not, as George Wallace might
          have said, pusseyfooting reformers!
 
 I hope our friends in the north-east are surviving the weather.
 
 
 HARRY POLLARDHere are a number of replies from top Georgists on the important
          subject of definitions, the basic language of economics. Henry George
          managed with seven definitions of basic terms and two assumptions.
 
 I began my critique of our basics with very careful definitions of
          this terminology.
 
 Perhaps Mase didn't see the early emails.
 
 
 MASON GAFFNEYThis dialogue might lead somewhere if you would define your terms,
          especially rent, rackrent, speculation. Otherwise . well, here we are,
          nowhere.
 
 
 HP: Bret Barker answered but not completely to Mason's
            satisfaction who replied:  
 MASON GAFFNEYDefining terms is not to make things harder, but easier.
 
 Thanks for trying. A good start, but note that you use the undefined
          term "speculation" to help define "ec rent" - and
          that's just one of many problems.
 
 
 BRET BARKERIs this better?
 
 Rack Rent: The value that attaches to available locations under
          modern conditions where much land is held from use for future gain or
          set aside by government restrictions on use.
 
 Economic Rent: The value that would attach to locations if there were
          no profit in merely holding valuable land off the market for future
          gain and unreasonable government restrictions on the use of land were
          eliminated.
 
 My understanding of Henry George is that he aimed to reduce this Rack
          Rent to Economic Rent by increasing the annual rate of taxation on
          assessed values until the profit of merely holding land for future
          gain was eliminated. The goal was to increase economic opportunity for
          all with good wages. With Rack Rent eliminated, a continuous fund of
          Economic Rent would replace taxes on Labor or Capital.
 
 I left out 'speculation,' but included the holding of land for future
          gain.
 
 
 ALANNA HARTZOKBret - this is nice and clear, yes precisely, ha ha.
 
 
 HARRY POLLARDDan Sullivan doesn't like my use of the word rack-rent.
 
 
 DAN SULLIVANThe Oxford English Dictionary defined rack rent as the full market
          rent, as opposed to the nominal rent that Irish lords had charged.
 
 However, this full market rent existed in the context of vast tracts
          of land being held out of use through enclosure. I therefore define
          rack-rent as an artificially high rent produced by land being held
          back from the market. Natural rent would then be the rent no rent
          could be held off the market rent-free. This is very similar to
          Brett's definition below.
 
 In any case, the common usage of the term "rack rent"
          implies some kind of mechanism for gouging the renter.
 
 
 HP: The Oxford English Dictionary does not determine how
            we use words. It reflects common usage, which accounts for some very
            peculiar words in its pages in modern times. I defined rack-rent as
            the highest contract rent that can be demanded from a tenant while
            maintaining production. I also noted Henry George's use of this
            highest contract rent as any higher would mean a "cessation of
            life".
 Frank Chodorov had something to say about this. This was submitted
            by Bret Barker. You'll note the "permission to live"
            price.
 
 FRANK CHODOROV"The beneficiaries of state power are the privileged classes.
          The greatest privilege which the state can confer is that of
          collecting rent from users of the earth. As all production consists of
          the application of labor to land, the owners of mines, franchises, and
          other choice spots are in a position to demand a permission-to-live
          price."
 
 
 HP: "Highest possible contract rent"- "cessation
            of life"- "permission to live" seem to be within the
            meaning of rack-rent as it was originally used. 
 MASON GAFFNEYDan: The Oxford English Dictionary defined rack rent as the full
          market rent, as opposed to the nominal rent that Irish lords had
          charged.
 
 
 DS: Mason: That is, of course, the opposite of Harry's
            usage.  Dan: However, this full market rent existed in the context of vast
          tracts of land being held out of use through enclosure.
 
 
 DS: Mason: Land is always being held out of "full"
            use, in varying degrees. Ted Turner recently held about a million
            acres, "because he likes to look at it". Where is the line
            between partial use and full use?  Dan: I therefore define rack-rent as an artificially high rent
          produced by land being held back from the market. Natural rent would
          then be the rent where no rent could be held off the market rent-free.
 
 
 DS: Mason: and last sentence does not parse. Is that what
            you really mean? Dan: This is very similar to Brett's definition.
 
 In any case, the common usage of the term "rack rent"
          implies some kind of mechanism for gouging the renter.
 
 
 DS: Mason:"Implies", yes, but that is a
            connotation, not a denotation. One might also say it this way: "rack
            rent" is a political pejorative used to stir up a mob (justly
            or not). You cannot build a science on such unclear and tendentious
            meanings. 
 HARRY POLLARDI think my definition of rack-rent is perfectly clear I said
          rack-rent was the highest contract rent that can be demanded from a
          tenant while maintaining production
 
 
 FRED FOLDVARYEconomic Rent: The value that would attach to locations if there
          were no profit in merely holding valuable land off the market for
          future gain and unreasonable government restrictions on the use of
          land were eliminated.
 
 "Economic rent" is a standard term in economics.
 
 The standard meaning of economic rent is income beyond what is needed
          to provide a factor in its most productive use.
 
 Since land has no cost of production, by this meaning, all land rent
          is economic rent. No rent needs to be kept by the title holder in
          order to provide land.
 
 I think it's best to use standard definitions, whenever possible.
 
 If we want a term for the land rent that would exist with full LVT, I
          have in a couple of articles used "geo-rent".
 
 
 HP: The problem with the standard meaning, Fred, is that
            it applies to all factors. We must either explain our particular use
            of economic rent (we shouldn't have to), or use another term, as you
            suggest. 
 Then Mason chided us for making it seem too easy and he proceeded
            to make it hard!
 
 MASON GAFFNEY"rent" is an annualized (or smoothed or levelized) figure,
          while actual net returns to land come in the form of irregular pulses
          of costs and revenues.
 
 To levelize these pulses one must first discount them all to the
          present, making them commensurable. Then when you have made them
          commensurable you can sum them. Then levelize this sum of present
          values to its annual equivalent.
 
 Those are mathematical operations requiring you to:
 
 
 
            forecast all costs and revenues into the infinite future, which
              no one knows enough to do, and which individuals will do
              differently and subjectively.Use an interest rate for discounting. Relevant interest rates
              differ widely among individuals' and groups of them (like
              corporations and governments) because lenders do not allocate
              credit by marginal productivity, but by collateral security.Also use an interest rate to levelize the present value to its
              annual equivalent, which is land rent. In a rising market your levelized land rent > rent derived
              from the current use alone. You must decide which of those
              meanings of "rent" you mean. Generally in this thread so far, writers have apparently assumed
          there is a smooth and easy equivalence between the net return from the
          current use and the market value of land, overlooking the important
          fact that the latter derives from an infinite series of future uses,
          mostly more lucrative than the extant use.
 
 
 DAN SULLIVANI made no such assumptions. I was thinking of rent in terms of what a
          user would pay this year or for the length of a lease. Price is indeed
          a speculative projection of future rents, and, to a lesser degree, so
          is a long-term lease. The variables that have to be considered in
          estimating price are important, but do not factor into the definition
          of rent, economic rent, natural rent or rack rent.
 
 I believe the original intent was how to distinguish rack rent from
          the natural rent that would exist under a substantial land value tax.
 
 
 HP: That was indeed the original intent, Dan. 
 With regard to Mason's analysis of economic rent, it seems to me to
            be unnecessarily complicated. In a Georgist society a Georgist
            assessor will use the equivalent of comparable sales among other
            things.
 
 Urban rents relate to each other. I believe the Danes first used
            'street valuations', but I think now it is quite common. In other
            words, the whole street except the corners have the same valuation.
            I have even seen on Danish land-value maps entire subdivisions with
            the same valuation. If sites are changing hands at a premium above
            the "official" valuation, changes are made in the
            Assessor's computer.
 
 I fear the process of practically finding economic rent must be
            left in the hands of the assessor rather than the economist.
 
 And it should not be difficult.
 
 HARRY POLLARDMase and I have been friends for almost 50 years though, at times,
          he's thrown up his hands at some of my antics. He is an economist of
          amazing scholarship. Not many could in a couple of E-Mails casually
          toss off a quote from early 19th century William Blake's "Jerusalem"
          and early 20th century Karel Capek's RUR (Rossum's Universal Roberts).
          Capek was the inventor of the term Robot.
 
 So, it is with great pleasure for me to take issue with two of his
          submissions to the definitions discussion.
 
 
 MASON GAFFNEYThe rent I could get "this year" for my obsolescent, aged,
          and depreciated avocado grove is about zero. The price I am asking is
          what our broker recommends based on sales of "comparables"
          nearby for residential use, which is a lot higher. The same is true in
          zones of transition from lower to higher uses over vast areas of the
          U.S.A. and the world. Current annual rent is a fiction, and to derive
          land price by "capitalizing" "what a user would pay
          this year" is accordingly fictional.
 
 
 HP: The economic rent, or natural rent, of your avocado
            grove is probably about the same as that of other land in the
            immediate area. The land component of the "comparables"
            price you are asking is based on contractual rent which is probably
            rack-rent. 
 Whatever improvement is on a particular location does not affect
            the economic rent of that location. So your avocadoes will have no
            effect on the Rent of your grove.
 
 Real estate agents along with property assessors use contractual
            rent or the price derived from it, though this is not straight
            capitalization but rather more than that for reasons I have
            mentioned in previous emails. Land being held from use assumes all
            the characteristics of a collectible, of which the most obvious is
            that the collector's valuation is of the future anticipated value of
            the collectible.
 
 To this must be added the peculiar nature of land-holding. There is
            a certain cachet to being a land-holder that sets him apart from the
            common people in business or production. Once the land is sold he is
            no different from them, so why should he sell? Then, in an economy
            that is improving steadily, his land-value is likely to keep pace
            and as it rises so does his price.
 
 Also, a favorable tax system doesn't hurt!
 
 Meantime, professional land speculators who, you'll recall, are now
            dubbed "property investors", hold land from use to collect
            the natural increase in land-value that accompanies an improving
            economy.
 
 It should be understood that speculation is not bad. It is an
            important and necessary part of the free market. It helps to flatten
            out valleys and peaks. But, because of the monopoly aspects of land,
            speculative land prices soar.
 
 You know my favorite example in the UK.
 
 
 
              The 13 hectare (32 acres) Battersea Power Station became
                derelict in 1982.It was purchased by John Broome for £1.5 million pounds
                in 1987.A "developer" bought it from him for £10
                million in 1993. Nothing was to it until the end of 2006 when it was sold for £400
                million. Incidentally, I don't use speculator in a pejorative sense. As
            Churchill might say, the speculator is simply doing what is legal
            and according to common usage.
 
 I just want to remove land speculation from the economy, perhaps
            the most important reason for the full collection of economic rent.
 
 MASON GAFFNEYTo write that other variables "do not factor into the definition
          of rent" is to overlook the arbitrary nature of definitions. "THE"
          definition of rent is a nonesuch. I recommend an old comic story by
          Ellis Parker Butler, "Pigs is pigs". Or any readable book on
          semantics - I like Stuart Chase, The Tyranny of Words. There is no
          word-God up there who decrees what words mean. Any word just "means
          to you what it means to you".
 
 
 HP: Henry George went to great lengths to ensure that
            basic economic terms would "mean the same to all of us".
            Without agreement of the meaning of the words we use, we cannot
            sensibly talk to each other. Then comes usage, but, as you know, the subverters of economic
          thought have succeeded all too well in jumbling usage in economic
          discourse, leaving us with a Tower of Babel.
 
 I would not recommend taking a term used in Ireland in the 19th
          Century to describe or analyze conditions today and elsewhere. For one
          thing, Irish peasants growing potatoes put in few durable buildings or
          other such improvements. Today, in Wisconsin, to put in a dairy means
          building a barn, and the owner's house, and other outbuildings. So in
          Year #1 there is a huge negative rent, to be followed by several years
          of positive rents. Which of those years would you choose to measure "the"
          land rent? You have to take whole cycles and annualize them.
 
 
 HP: The London Times sent an able man to Ireland to
            investigate the living conditions of the rack-rented Irish before
            the famine. He was by no means anti-landlord yet his description of
            the condition of the people was devastating. Families lived in huts
            with muddy floors on a diet almost entirely of potatoes. The husband
            would eat 10 pounds a day, the rest of the family lesser amounts.
            When the potato crop failed, staying alive was difficult or
            impossible. One horrible thing I remember from his report concern
            the workhouses. They had a wooden wall that swung open. When
            somebody died - which was often - they would simply open the flap
            and push the corpse outside. The landlords were very rarely in
            Ireland. They were at the Court of St. James while a manager ran
            their estates, some of which were as large as counties. 
 Well, of course that sort of thing doesn't happen now. We give
            welfare to the poor. Imagine what would happen if there were no
            welfare. I suspect that those at the bottom of the wage pyramid
            would barely survive - or not survive. Rack-rent exacts everything
            possible from labor. The sooner we can do away with it the better.
 
 With regard to your Wisconsin dairy farmer, in Year #1 the economic
            rent wouldn't change, nor would it change in succeeding years -
            except for outside influences.
 
 MASON GAFFNEY (answering Bret Barker)Every landholding is "speculative" because land lasts
          forever, and we cannot know the far future (or even the near future
          very well, but the farther future you look, the fuzzier is your view).
 
 
 
            Even to forecast no change is speculativeThus, almost every landowner is a speculator. It you just want
              shelter, you rent. 
 HP: In this case, our lives are "speculative"
            for we cannot know the future. Why restrict this to landholding? Today, the most common usage of "speculator" as a
          pejorative is for a person who buys underused land with a view to
          putting it to a higher use, or a more intensive use. The opposite of
          H.G.'s usage.
 
 
 HP: I rather think that putting land to a higher use is
            not the function of the speculator but the intention of the
            developer who buys it from the speculator. Here is something via Wyn
            Achenbaum. 
 WYN ACHENBAUM Charles Village: One man won't sell his rental property to a
          developer who needs the block.
 
 By Scott Calvert
 Sun Staff - Originally published August 19, 2004
 
 C. William Struever is one of Baltimore's shrewdest, most successful
          developers. Daniel F. Jackson Jr. is a Pasadena man who owns a handful
          of rental properties.
 
 Who has more pull? In this case, it isn't Struever.
 
 That's because Jackson owns a Charles Village rowhouse needed by
          Struever to develop a key part of the $150 million College Town dorms,
          shops and condominiums in North Baltimore near the Johns Hopkins
          University.
 
 But Jackson - unlike others who have made big profits by selling
          nearly identical rowhouses to Struever for up to $400,000 - has
          declined to sell, and nobody can make him.
 
 Critics say he is greedy to seek a reported $1.5 million on a block
          where houses went for $100,000 just four years ago. Jackson insists he
          wants only a "decent" deal and is unmoved by pleas to sell
          in time for a planned October groundbreaking.
 
 
 HP: Who is the speculator and who is the developer? 
 MASON GAFFNEYNote that taxing land does not always or necessarily suppress wild
          speculative behavior. Thus in the boom of the 1920s there was a rash
          of special improvement districts around growing cities. These
          districts had tax powers over land. They borrowed megabucks for street
          improvements, including water supplies and drains. These bonds were
          secured by their power to tax lands. They overshot the mark and the
          bubble burst, giving local improvement bonds a bad name for years.
          Chicago, Detroit, most of NY State and Florida, were heavily involved,
          along with parts of California.
 
 
 HP: This is why I point out that some land-value tax
            doesn't accomplish what we want. It will have some good effects as
            noted by Dan in Pittsburgh, but it will not end speculation. It is
            necessary to collect the full economic rent of land, or at least
            enough to force landholders to abandon their vacant and underused
            land. 
 Drastic? Tell that to the 160,000 homeless people in Los Angeles.
 
 HARRY POLLARDI was a little hard on Mason and he replied appropriately with the
          theme from "Looney Toons" (I told you he was an economist of
          amazing scholarship!) However, I will continue to ask awkward
          questions about our certainties.
 
 I believe that Henry George created a genuine School of Classical
          Political Economy. He treated it as a science -something modern
          neoclassicals have failed to do, though they have a dozen different
          amd conflicting "sciences".
 
 As Mase said "the subverters of economic thought have succeeded
          all too well in jumbling usage in economic discourse, leaving us with
          a Tower of Babel."
 
 After his excellent analysis, he perhaps made a mistake in coming up
          with a simple solution to the problem he uncovered. This took over and
          the policy of taxing land values overwhelmed the more profound aspects
          of his thinking.
 
 This is the situation now where most land-value taxers appear to
          concentrate on what Milton Friedman called "the least bad tax".
          Yet, George was not advocating a "least bad tax". His target
          was extreme and lasting poverty and involuntary unemployment.He began
          "Progress and Poverty" by pointing to the incredible
          increase in the power to produce and asking why then is it so hard to
          make a living?
 
 If only modern neo-classical economists would stop meddling with the
          money and concentrate on answering that question after taking a good
          look at George's thinking.
 
 
 MASON GAFFNEY
 Oh, the merry-go-round broke downAs we went 'round and 'round
 Each time 'twould miss we'd steal a kiss
 While the merry-go-round went
 
 Um-pah-pah, um-pah-pah
 Um-pah, um-pah, um-pah-pah
 
 Oh, the merry-go-round broke down
 It made the darndest sound
 The lights went low, we both said "Oh"
 And the merry-go-round went
 
 Um-pah-pah, um-pah-pah
 Um-pah, um-pah, um-pah-pah
 
 Oh, what fun, a wonderful time
 Finding love for only a dime
 
 Oh, the merry-go-round broke down
 But you don't see me frown
 Ev'rything is fine and now she's mine
 'Cause the merry-go-round went
 
 Um-pah-pah, um-pah-pah
 Um-pah, um-pah, um-pah-pah
 Oh, the merry-go-round broke down
 
 
 
 
 HP: "Th-th-that's all, folks!" (But it isn't!) 
 HARRY POLLARD (writing to Ed Dodson)As you know, I don't regard the sales price of land as a simple
          capitalization of rack-rent. Rather, in addition to capitalization are
          other influences. I mentioned the peculiar cachet that attaches to a
          landowner. While the producer wants throughput to keep refilling his
          empty shelves, once the landowner sells, that's it. He has money but
          he has lost his station in the community.
 
 Then there is the simple fact that in a growing economy the value of
          his land is going to keep increasing so why should he sell and invest
          when he has a "capital gains" income taxed at a lower rate?
          I put quotes around capital gains because capital doesn't gain. It
          depreciates with use - it wears out. Or, at least, Georgist capital
          does. The neoclassicals have messed up the concept of capital. In any
          event, the capital gains tax actually taxes land so we'll will keep
          that quiet.
 
 Finally, land is treated as a collectible by its owner and its value
          to him is never the present market price but rather its anticipated
          future value.
 
 All this was stimulated by the following from Bill Batt.
 
 
 BILL BATTI believe it's to you that we owe the first identification and
          explanation of *collectibles* as a kind of speculation to distinguish
          them from the kinds of speculation that we link to natural resource
          rents. I've just finished reading a review that rivals stories of the
          great tulip mania, and one that I don't believe has been thought of by
          our Georgist community. It's the late nineties craze over *beanie
          babies.*
 
 My wife Karen is a retired pediatrician, and she was given beanie
          baby gifts by her patients -- or rather their mothers -- and she still
          has quite a few (for whatever they're worth today!).
 
 I have a request of you: to write up the idea of collectibles in
          Georgist terms using this episode as an example, so that we all have a
          clear understanding of your distinction here. I don't think anyone
          other than you ever explicated this idea, and I think it's a profound
          one. I think of it somewhat in parallel to the case Dan Sullivan and I
          discussed several years ago -- see
          http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/batt-h-william_are-exceptionally-high-wages-really-rent-2002.htm.
 
 There are some stories that you, and you alone, are credited --
          another being the peanut sales story in Weston Ontario, which I have
          repeated often -- and even used in the appendix of the book that Cliff
          Cobb and I amended for David Smiley, Crumbling Foundations.
 
 Anyway, we need you to explain these ideas in full -- rather than
          just in passing. Or at least I do.
 
 
 HP: Back in the 60's I was having dinner with David
            Friedman - the son of Milton - and a couple of friends. We got into
            a discussion, or rather an argument, about value. David wiped the
            floor with me and as I drove my tattered ideas home, I decided I
            needed to do a lot more work on value. My present Georgist ideas
            weren't good enough. 
 A short time later, I read about a collectible auction. Somebody
            had bought a Rosalie beer can for $4,000. Later, as he was leaving,
            someone stopped him and offered him $10,000 for the Rosalie. He
            refused.
 
 This is a very peculiar market, I thought, and I looked into it
            further. As I recall there were six Rosalie beer cans in existence
            in mint condition. Mint condition was important.
 
 I found that collectors hang on to their mint condition
            collectibles even when common sense would suggest they sold. They
            kept their eyes on the market but they valued their collectible not
            at its present market price but at a future anticipated price.
 
 But this described how landholders view their land!
 
 The land market acts like a 'collectible' market. Land is held in
            the expectation that next week, next month, next year, it will have
            increased in price. (The psychology of collectors is interesting.
            Income doesn't matter - future sales price is the only interest.)
 
 Holding land from use parallels holding a 16th century Tiger Maple
            desk in the bedroom wrapped in plastic. The kids are not allowed to
            do their homework on it and the costs of holding are minimal.
 
 Land held from use as a collectible is not the subject of serious
            investment. It is simply fenced and left unused. If property taxes
            become a nuisance, the location might be blacktopped for a car lot,
            or a valuable corner might support a gas station.
 
 Such uses were once called "taxpayers".
 
 Should an offer arrive that just can't be refused, the blacktop or
            the service station can be quickly removed at minimum cost, just as
            the tiger maple desk can be unwrapped.
 
 Although, wait a minute! Perhaps next month, or next year, a better
            offer might arrive. Better hang on for that future anticipated
            value.
 
 Finally, there are "contrived collectibles" - a limited
            print edition, or first cover, or 'we broke the mold'. This category
            includes beanie babies which can make some millionaires, while
            others are left with a garage full of worthless "collectibles".
 
 I suspect that everybody would like to make easy money as a
            collector, which leads to mad scrambles after anything that looks
            like a possible collectible including homes, but we know about that.
 
 I did think that economists had left the subject of collectibles
            alone, but Fred Foldvary sent me a couple of cites.
 
 
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